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Posted by OkFun6418 1 month ago
Is it normal to pay deposit before viewing

I am looking to rent in London for 6months and landlords wants a deposit before viewing as he says he has got a lot of interest due to the location.

He’s sent a reassurance letter he wants me to sign then pay deposit becomes viewing, is this normal?

The property was originated posted by a former flatmate who is looking to move out and then he gave me the landlords contact details.

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Posted by 14epr 1 month ago

Sounds very dodgy - do not pay.

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Posted by Taiyella 1 month ago

Don't pay it's not normal

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Posted by objectablevagina 1 month ago

Want to echo other comments. Don't pay you are not getting that back

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Posted by TheDisapprovingBrit 1 month ago

Not only are you not getting that back, but £50 says that this isn't the landlord and the property is not actually on the market. If you pay, nobody will turn up to show you around, and you'll probably meet a couple of tenants/homeowners who are pretty irate about the number of idiots who keep banging on their door expecting a viewing.

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Posted by objectablevagina 1 month ago

Yeah, seen this go around a couple of times on subs like these. 

Its a real shame people are so dire for houses as it leads to scams like the above.

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Posted by Slightly_Effective 1 month ago

Plus it appears likely that's more then a week's rent for a holding deposit 🧐

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Posted by Hot-Acanthisitta8086 1 month ago

Absolute not lol. Start putting their email on as many sex mailing lists as possible

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Posted by chat5251 1 month ago

Nice scam here

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Posted by ArticleAmazing3446 1 month ago

Name and shame the agency please. It’s incredibly important that unethical practices are brought to light, so that others can avoid them in future.

If you suspect this is fraudulent, report them to Action Fraud. You can’t play nice with these folks - they only understand short sharp shocks.

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Posted by vicar-s_mistress 1 month ago

You can't shame the agency. It doesn't exist.

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Posted by ArticleAmazing3446 1 month ago

Straight to action fraud then!

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Posted by Exact-Lavishness7651 1 month ago

"Insufficient evidence to proceed"

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Posted by ArticleAmazing3446 1 month ago

It’s always worth making a report. Others may also have done so and therefore puts the suspects front and centre.

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Posted by FreddiesNightmare65 1 month ago

Action fraud is not interested unless you have lost money. I know as I have tried to report scams in the past.

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Posted by ArticleAmazing3446 1 month ago

Funny. I’ve definitely reported multiple rental scams to them and they’ve taken it very seriously

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Posted by GlassDescription2275 1 month ago

Or they spoke to you as they would. Are you aware of any follow up?

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Posted by sardonicscriber 1 month ago

No, this is a very common scam. Never, ever part with money ahead of viewing for any reason.

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Posted by MGNConflict 1 month ago

No, it’s forbidden under the Tenancy Fees Act. They can only collect a deposit once you’ve confirmed you’re interested in the property want want to go forward, and even then that’s limited to a one-week holding deposit (and five weeks of rent once tenancy checks have passed and after you’ve signed the tenancy agreement).

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Posted by N4t3ski 1 month ago

The bad english in the contract alone would send me running. The 800 deposit for merely viewing the property is entirely unreasonable, even if turned out to be legitimate.

Move on to something else.

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Posted by Ok_Entry_337 1 month ago

Not just unreasonable. Illegal.

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Posted by Average_Dan_ 1 month ago

Jesus's... £800.

Imagine that he has 10 people wanting to view the property.

I would definitely stay away from this.

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Posted by RedFin3 1 month ago

Unless this is from a legit estate agency, it is likely fraudulent

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Posted by Ok_Entry_337 1 month ago

Doesn’t matter who it is. It’s illegal, plain & simple.

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Posted by zambezisa 1 month ago

No, common scam.

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Posted by smoulderstoat 1 month ago

Run. It's against the law to charge a holding deposit of more than a week's rent.

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Posted by MGNConflict 1 month ago

It’s also against the law to charge a holding deposit to view the property, it can only be charged once both parties want to go forward with renting.

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Posted by chamanager 1 month ago

No this is certainly not normal and a reputable landlord/agent would not ask for it. The reference to custodians looks like bulls**t to me, landlord and tenant law has no provision for custodians. You should not take this any further and block their number.

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Posted by Equivalent-Fee-25 1 month ago

If you went and knocked on the door probably be an unknown person who knows nothing of it. Reverse image search the pictures and you will probably find there stolen off another site .

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Posted by RepresentativeOk3943 1 month ago

Not at all. They tried to pull this scam once when I was new to the country and desperate for housing. Almost fel for it.

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Posted by LettuceWithBeetroot 1 month ago

A very common scam, sadly

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Posted by naasei 1 month ago

This is a scam. No landlord will ortshould ask your for deposit before viewing. There are a lot of housing scams out there. Please do not part with any money until the landlord has taken you to the property and opened the door for you to have a look inside the property.

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Posted by Bonzothedoggie 1 month ago

If you’re tempted, just remember: scammers don’t do refunds.

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Posted by zeehoo 1 month ago

Scam

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Posted by HawkwardGames 1 month ago

It's a scam. if you pay this, you will be in no position to get anything back.

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Posted by DiscoveryJamie 1 month ago

This is a known scam where they get a few people to do the same thing to view the same property (property is real) scammer is fake agent. You view the property and the genuine people don’t even know who you are or where your money is..

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Posted by WellWellWell2021 1 month ago

Nobody is going to even commit to renting their rooms or house to someone they haven't even met. So even someone just offering you the place without meeting you in person is a scam indicator. Walk away.

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Posted by munta20 1 month ago

Red flag!!

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Posted by Vision157 1 month ago

sounds like a scam

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Posted by Hot_Chocolate92 1 month ago

Nope it’s likely a scam

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Posted by KeepitReal19 1 month ago

No. Do not pay anything until you have a signed Assured Shorthold Tenancy agreement from the actual landlord (or via an agent with authority to do this). The true landlord is the property owner. Many tenants subletting illegally at present.

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Posted by EstablishmentReal156 1 month ago

Nope.It's a scam

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Posted by MrFlaneur17 1 month ago

Nah call police

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Posted by lysergic101 1 month ago

This is a scam...

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Posted by vicar-s_mistress 1 month ago

This is definitely a scammer. They get you to pay before viewing because they can't do after because they do not own or have access to the property.

They aren't even in the area. They are in some African or Asian country in a room full of scammers and this is their full time job. When you pay the deposit they will disappear and you'll never see that money again.

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Posted by vicar-s_mistress 1 month ago

Oh yeah the flatmate is in on the scam too.

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Posted by Independent_Name_492 1 month ago

My wife 8 years ago paid deposit for a London flat. She didn’t get it back nor did she view the house.

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Posted by throwaway_t6788 1 month ago

good on you for checking here first.. how did you find this place? website? fb group etx? put a comment if you can trekking others it is a scam. so others dont lose out.

report to police  and maybe ch4 or bbc as they did a programme on this a year or so back. 

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Posted by OkFun6418 1 month ago

It’s on an app called MatesPlace people either tenants or landlords put spare rooms they want to lease or rent

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Posted by Lit-Up 1 month ago

no

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Posted by BoutiqueKymX2account 1 month ago

No not normal at all

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Posted by No-Pitch-5785 1 month ago

NOT A CHANCE So many questions. Payment in £ bit using Z’s is. Or the usual grammar. Never pay anyone anything until you have seen the property. This is a total scam and they’re either subletting or they have their story wonky. Steer clear! I’m in the process of going through referencing but my guarantor is on his holidays but I’ve paid my deposit already but I’ve seen the flat and he turned up on time and I e checked their Companies a house accounts because I am so scared of being scammed. So shady xx good luck

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Posted by No-Pitch-5785 1 month ago

AND there is no headed logo paper or any reference to companies house or the FDA. Please do not pay this

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Posted by aljama1991 1 month ago

No, it's very unusual. I have been a landlord and a tenant.

There are other places that you will find - con artists prey on the desperate.

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Posted by biggie_dd 1 month ago

Is it CityRooms? If yes, avoid them like the plague.

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Posted by Safe-Status-8972 1 month ago

Nope, my experience with letting agencies was that we had to pay them ( and other potential renters too) a none refundable fixed fee for dealing with our application which contained a credit search. The landlord then chose which potential tenant they wanted, then we paid a deposit upon signing for the tenancy

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Posted by Versuchskaninchen_99 1 month ago

no! Don't pay

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Posted by NoSubject2336 1 month ago

Scam, not how deposits work….

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Posted by DarkAngelAz 1 month ago

No. It’s a common scam

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Posted by Extension-Tank-1135 1 month ago

Classic scam. Avoid

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Posted by 120000milespa 1 month ago

It’s an American scheme. It’s how Americans sell houses.

They have this kind of bullshit. You will also end up paying their seller a commission.

Avoid like the plague.

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Posted by OkFun6418 1 month ago

Ok thanks it that a former flatmate advertised the place on a house share app so thought it was legit why would they advertise a scam if they do ibex there before and have contact with the landlord

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Posted by Slow-Choice-9791 1 month ago

Fuck paying before viewing, that's insane.

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Posted by Kicktopuss_Rex 1 month ago

All the red flags are there

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Posted by LongSolid5240 1 month ago

That sounds like the former tennant is trying to get his deposit back without going through the landlord. Which would mean you are liable for any damage that may have occurred whilst said tennant was living there.

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Posted by boudicas_shield 1 month ago

It’s likely not even that. This is a common scam. There is no available property at all. Someone has chosen a random property and is pretending to rent it out, gathering the £800 “deposit” from desperate and/or naive people and then ghosting them. If you showed up at the actual address, you’d probably find a confused and irritated homeowner or tenant who has no idea what you’re talking about.

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Posted by Cool-Tree-3663 1 month ago

No

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Posted by That-Task7846 1 month ago

Do not pay, there is no reason for it, if you do pay most likely it will take months to get it back.

If they are insistent on it ask why, is the house worth millions, is there valuable items around that may get damaged.

Most likely its for "Land Lords time". I'm a landlord and never had to do this.

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Posted by TheMarkMatthews 1 month ago

Common SCAM do not pay anything before viewing and signing a contract / collecting keys

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Posted by Valuable-Aioli1539 1 month ago

Don’t pay

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Posted by BristolEngland 1 month ago

Scam

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Posted by Immediate_Pen_251 1 month ago

Run….. away

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Posted by SlithyJabberwock 1 month ago

No it's not. Walk away from it.

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Posted by Calm_Wonder_4830 1 month ago

DO NOT PAY ONE PENNY. THIS IS SCREAMING SCAM!!

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Posted by Prudent_Conference48 1 month ago

Ooh the title on its own sounds like a scam.

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Posted by Chemical_Recover_747 1 month ago

It's not normal at all, and do not. You pay a holding deposit, which is a small amount while checks, etc, are done. You only pay the 1st month rent and bond on the day of moving in

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Posted by Stunning-Arm376 1 month ago

Nope, Ive never paid a deposit to view. Pass, there are lots of other options which doesn't need this

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Posted by richardbaxter 1 month ago

Nope 

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Posted by Personal_Lab_484 1 month ago

“On the spot” is not contractual language lol. Like they’ve not even been assed to use AI.

Obvious scam

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Posted by warlord2000ad 1 month ago

Sounds like a deposit scam to me. Wouldn't trust it

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Posted by Lemmyheadwind 1 month ago

Not normal but greedy landlords/agents sadly are more normalised than ever.

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Posted by BadPunsIsHowEyeRoll 1 month ago

Im in America, but I paid for my place before ever viewing it. Its still the only place I’ve ever moved into that has roaches

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Posted by cwjd 1 month ago

One week possibly legal but questionable. More than one week illegal

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Posted by borgy95a 1 month ago

Scam

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Posted by h_4vok 1 month ago

Its a scam.

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Posted by tesla_uk 1 month ago

Fk that, forget it

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Posted by Flangian 1 month ago

scammiest of all scams, building either doesnt exist or its not even his property.

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Posted by saajan12 1 month ago

No, this is a scam.  If you really had a popular property, you'd hold an open house or block viewings all on one day, 15 min apart. That way you get all those interested people through with the least hassle and impact on the current tenants (vs individual viewings spread out. Takes 3 messages and 15 min of your time. You wouldn't sit around signing reassurance letters and negotiating payments with all those people. Then refunding all the people you don't rent to.. all in hours of work. 

Should be viewing > holding deposit (1 weeks) > referencing > contract & security deposit (5 weeks). You don't know you want to hold the place yet, what if you don't like it.  

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Posted by OkFun6418 1 month ago

Thanks appreciate, just double checking thought it did seem unusual

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Posted by QuietGoliath 1 month ago

Do not pay. It's a scam.

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Posted by InfiniteDjest 1 month ago

‘I’ve written it down’

Oh ok must be legit then

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Posted by FitPresent1690 1 month ago

You are being scammed 💯

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Posted by Lifeisgoole 1 month ago

Very dodgy. US spelling of finalise and some grammatical errors all scream it's a scam. Do not hand over a single penny.

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Posted by TheNorthC 1 month ago

The the other obvious reason that it would be a fraud is that the argent's job is to secure the highest possible rent for the landlord, and putting high financial barriers down just for a viewing would be a breach of contract.

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Posted by Markee6868 1 month ago

It will become normal if people agree to it, don’t do it…

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Posted by FollowingSelect8600 1 month ago

Do not pay. Report to your local trading standards as appropriate

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Posted by CaptainChristiaan 1 month ago

Sounds like an absolutely scum landlord. 😤 AVOID.

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Posted by Soft-Influence-3645 1 month ago

Scam. Don’t.

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Posted by Weasel8687 1 month ago

scam

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Posted by Such_Victory4589 1 month ago

before a viewing? absolutely not

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Posted by OkFun6418 1 month ago

Wouldn’t that count as a ‘holding deposit’ heard some people do it

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Posted by Such_Victory4589 1 month ago

you're going to view a property. you're not signing a lease.

thats like me going to a car dealer and giving them a deposit to test drive a car. thats ridiculous

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Posted by CoffeeForJasmine 1 month ago

I am a landlord, this is not normal.

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Posted by veintecuatro 1 month ago

Scam scam scam scam scam

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Posted by Extension-Pepper2610 1 month ago

It’s a pretty obvious scam. With the promise of the money being refunded to you for any reason it makes it seem safe but in fact you’ll likely never see that money again

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Posted by WhatsGoingOnThen 1 month ago

Yeah walk away.

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Posted by Porsche-Turbo 1 month ago

That’s the most BS thing anyone can pull. Red flags all over

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Posted by Creepy-Bell-4527 1 month ago

I would say, sure, but because a lot of people have asked me for a deposit I'm going to need an £1800 deposit for my deposit providing services, which will 100% pinky promise be returned.

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Posted by Known-Inevitable-206 1 month ago

SCAM!

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Posted by EngineKey 1 month ago

Scam

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Posted by socrates_on_meth 1 month ago

Illegal!

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Posted by Master-Yoghurt7107 1 month ago

Unfortunately fell for something similar in a high-interest city when I was 19. Bank managed to reclaim half the money, but the house was owned outright and "landlord" blocked my number the second the transfer was complete. Avoid like plague

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Posted by Wet_danger_noodle 1 month ago

No. Never

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Posted by OkFun6418 1 month ago

He sent this in email: For safety and security purposes, I can provide you with a copy of my ID, a recent property utility bill, and a proof of private ownership certificate to confirm that I own the property.

Note that your deposit is fully refundable if you decide not to proceed with the rental after the viewing. Kindly let me know your decision as soon as possible, as it would be unfair to reject other potential candidates or not respond to them while I'm waiting for your decision.

Does it make it more trustworthy?

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Posted by EstablishmentSad2999 1 month ago

No...

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Posted by gbonfiglio 1 month ago

Less. Dodgy ask + sense of urgency = do not proceed.

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Posted by Fruitpicker15 1 month ago

What's a proof of private ownership certificate and who issues them?

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Posted by Far-Professional5988 1 month ago

Exactly. It's total bullshit

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Posted by Acceptable_Mud_9249 1 month ago

Not to be dramatic but NONONONO. I had someone (many many years ago) pull this shit, they were asking for 800 upfront and I said no. My in-laws at the time said it was fine and gave me 200 to give as a compromise. They never got that 200 back, wished I trusted my gut but I was only 19.

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Posted by naasei 1 month ago

No. It doesn't make it trustworthy. All those are bloody lies. Once you send the money, they will block you from being able to contact them again. Do not part with your money!

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Posted by TheDisapprovingBrit 1 month ago

I can also provide you with a copy of somebody's ID and some documents I've knocked up on Photoshop. Can I have £800?

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Posted by Scottish-warrior05 1 month ago

Ask for the certificates

If only so we can laugh at how poor they are

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