Updating post from Reddit.
The front door of Keir Starmer's North London home was set on fire.
It is now under control and the police are investigating. On Monday, 12 May at 01:35hrs, police were alerted by the London Fire Brigade to reports of a fire at a residential address. Officers attended the scene. Damage was caused to the property’s entrance, tenants were not hurt but there was "damage" to the front of the £2million townhouse.
Regardless how you feel about politics and politicians I’m sure we can all agree that is absolute scumbag behaviour and I hope whoever did it gets their collar felt in short order.
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What the actual fuck is this? A terror plot against our prime minister?
He's nowhere near them, so it's more like intimidation I guess. If linked - it's strange that they know his multiple old addresses for sure but also know about his old car.
I'm sure top brass are investigating.
That's what terrorism is, casualties are incidental. The goal is to intimidate.
It's messed up.
Not really. Terrorism is called terrorism because it’s about spreading terror, usually through the most extreme violence and loss of life that can be achieved. Casualties are not incidental they are centrepiece to the intended result.
This is political intimidation not terrorism imo. I feel the word terrorism is becoming a catch all for term for a lot of things.
Nah this meets the legal definition of terrorism if it is about the political intimidation as you say.
Three things to be true for it to be terrorism:
Arson is clearly serious damage (or at least intended to be). The PM being intimidated would tick box two. The open question is was there a political goal being advanced. If there was, then it counts.
And since the above definition is based on the wording of a 2000 Act, that's a quarter of a century where the legal reality would capture this. It's not an increasingly broad definition, at least not on whether this would or wouldn't count.
Well can no longer complain about trivial landlord headaches
On same day as freak central London power cut?
Russia until proven otherwise.
I completely disagree with his politics, and think he’s probably the 2nd worst Prime Minister we’ve had in the 21st century after Cameron.
That being said - property damage is not a legitimate form of protest and these troublemakers should be arrested.
You think he's worse than truss?
Are you ok love. Is your head ok to not have Liz Truss in your top 2?
They may have blinked and missed Liz.
Yes, but what about the pork markets?
Half of our colleagues here voted her in on the promise of slashing red-tape
Truss was a massive disaster - but she left before she did permanent damage with her idiocy.
Starmers damage to the country will be a lot more insidious and longer lasting.
Truss’s approach tried to push a decentralised, pro-growth agenda within a centralised, debt-driven system. She wanted to cut taxes and deregulate to stimulate growth — but without challenging the root problem = the Bank of England's control over monetary policy, money creation, and debt servicing.
She basically tried to apply a free market solution without addressing the fiat system that punishes deficit spending unless it’s directed and controlled by central banks. The markets saw unfunded tax cuts as inflationary and risky, and since she wasn’t aligned with the BoE (which holds the real power), she lost credibility instantly.
In short, she tried to shift the gears of a system she wasn’t in control of — and the system threw her under the bus for it.
Most won’t agree with this because they only see the headlines and the surface narrative, not the economic mechanisms underneath. But anyone who understands how central banking and fiat dependency work will see she was a threat to their debt based system.
Genuinely asking, not trying to be facetious, what damage has he caused so far? I’ve kind of switched off from politics. Most of the bits I’ve seen I’ve kinda been indifferent to.
Literally none
Brown people exist
I'd have to disagree. The economic damage caused by truss didn't just disappear when she left office.
"Damage he will cause" Can I borrow your crystal ball mate?
I'm still paying hundreds more per month on my mortgage thanks to Truss
If you genuinely believe you’re paying £100s more on your mortgage because of a budget that never went into effect and almost immediately rescinded, good for you.
Interest rates went up around the world as a result of QE implemented during COVID. Yeah, they went up rapidly in the UK following Truss’ budget. But it was almost immediately cancelled.
Starmers managed decline of Britain is far more insidious and longer term. More austerity will destroy GDP growth, putting us in an even tighter situation in regards the defect. Then they’ll have to cut harder, or raise taxes, to try and fight it.
If it was such a good budget, why did the Tories reverse it when they saw the backlash from announcing it?
Of course that budget caused interest rates to go up, it happened immediately when it was announced.
It's classic rocket and feather, rates shoot up quickly and come down slowly. Unfortunately for me it was when my fixed term was ending so I had to lock into a new one and I've been paying more ever since.
Fourteen years of Tories fucking up the country. Starmer has been in for less than a year and everyone's expecting him to have fixed it already? You talk about the deficit and austerity... well which do you want? If we spend more the deficit goes up immediately with a hope that in the future we can grow tax receipts through economic growth. Why do you think Labour needs to cut hard and raise taxes? Guess what, it's not because the Tories did a fucking supreme job for 14 years.
I never said it was a good budget. It was a terrible budget, disastrously delivered.
Liz Truss was to blame the a sharp rise in interest rates. They probably went slightly higher, and much quicker, than they would have otherwise.
But interest rates would've gone up to within a few percentage points of where they were at the highest level, Liz Truss disaster class or not.
14 years of Tory austerity but it’s the Labour PM who’s been there less than a year and essentially not undone it that gets the blame.
This ridiculous blue v red game is childish and hurts the country.
Tories were really bad. Labour are going in the same direction 'further and faster', as Starmer put it.
I'd argue he's the best Prime Minister we've had since Cameron and he's not even good.
Absolutely. I'd actually go as far as to say he's the worst of the 21st century so far, but there is zero room for behaviour like this. This person could have killed someone.
You must actually be a dolphin because the only excuse for completely missing out Boris and Lettuce Truss is living in the sea.
Lettuce was hardly around long enough to even count. But Boris, in my opinion, was better.
You are bonkers.
Go tell everyone whose mortgages doubled that truss’ tenancy doesn’t count.
