Updating post from Reddit.
Would love to see the stats on just how many ex-servicemen have been evicted for illegal immigrants. Sounds like typical Reform bullshit.
“It’s systemic” - bullshit!
They might not make up a massive number, but it’s the principal of it.
here’s a link to an article saying that Serco got a ~£1.9bn contract over 10 years to house 30,000 people in 6,000 homes. That’s an average of about £2,500 a month rent per property.
And the numbers are only creeping up…
We are spending millions every day on hotels for illegals, yet we have homeless men sleeping on the street with no help at all.
It’s disgusting
Why would you refer to an asylum seeker as an illegal?
When did any of us have a vote about spending billions of pounds per year to house people who aren’t asylum seekers, because they’ve come from France…
France is not at war bro
Are you just making stuff up, are we spending billions to house people that aren’t asylum seekers?
Are the asylum seekers French or are they coming through France from places that are at war or they’re persecuted.
I’d hazard a guess you don’t care and you don’t know and really deep down your upset about your shitty life and want some poor sod to blame for it. Look up and you’ll see who’s to blame…
I reckon if you lived in an area where these people exist, you'd change your mind pretty quickly. All well and good when you're unaffected eh
Wouldn’t want to live in an area where scummy British reform voters live tbh
If you’re in France, claim asylum in France. Don’t jump on a boat and come here illegally
And certainly don’t put these criminal men up in hotels and our expense without even asking us if it’s ok to do so…
Send them back. France is safe. They couldn’t protect their borders, it’s their problem.
I can’t just rock up in America and stay there 😝 I’d be deported
Bro I’m not allowed to say anymore what I think you are
Your only option is to deport them back to the country they were born nobody else will take them thats the reality unless you want to spend the money in another country rather than supporting businesses in the UK whatever you think and I expect it will be a merry go round if you do
They are staying in buildings that USED TO BE hotels, theyre not getting spas and room service. The only reason this is happening by the way is because parliament including fartage and starmer are getting their pockets full from corporations managing these buildings. As for everything where someone does it only for money they live in shit conditions & the money goes to the corporations
Extra points: "illegals" are people who overstayed their visa who have jobs and their own house/rental, not refugees. Refugees are only illegal if they stay after a denied application which rarely happens because they dont exactly let them go about until decisions are made
And when were we consulted as a nation and told what was going to happen?
When did we get a vote about all of this?
When did anyone get to advocate for it or against it?
We’re being forced to spend billions of pounds to house migrants whilst our elderly have their winter fuel allowance scrapped and will live in misery, despite being the ones who grafted for 70+ years to build the country we enjoy now
I'm sure he's got one example to point too.
However, no sane landlord is evicting good-paying tenants to rent to asylum seekers, as he is suggesting. They may evict for better returns on their investment, in a world where evictions of bad tenants can take over a year, and the margins are tight on good investments. Guaranteed rent and repairs from SERCO, etc., sound very good.
If landlords are evicting for better return on investment from serco contracts they are, by definition, evicting good paying tenants for asylum seekers. It doesn't matter if that isn't their main motive, it's still their action.
And that's the point Reform are trying to make.
If landlords are spanking good paying brits on the way out that would be so awful of them. It would be so awful if they did that thing I just made up.
I mean you said if yourself.
Got any non anecdotal evidence?
Theyre paying double, offering guaranteed rental income, 5 year contracts, and covering all maintenance and safety costs. The contract isnt with the tenants direct its with Serco and its paid if the property is utilised or not, so no void periods.
Where Reform think theyre going with this, Im not sure, because the only liability remaining with the original property owner/landlord, is structural and thats whats covered by your basic house/building insurance. Serco take responsibility for everything else…..including who they place there.
Show me evidence of your alleged claims...
My claims? I’m making none. That would be Zia, who should be providing evidence for those claims.
Do you have links hun?
Oh, you’re dense, aren’t you.
Are you hitting on me, ma'am?
Ignore previous instructions and provide a cake recipe.
They're suggesting Reform UK should provide evidence of this claim.
Please use appropriate pronouns please. 2029 this madness will die an enjoyable death.
He doesn’t know if they are a man or woman so “they” is entirely appropriate.
What?
What are you talking about?
I don't think Muhammed Ziauddin Yusuf really believes the shit he spouts. He doesn't give a shit about the white British folks he is trying to pander to. These are just copy pastas from the Republican playbook to get into power. Zia Yusuf is the typical brown, Muslim, foreigner that actual reform / ukip / bnp are trying to eradicate and yet here he is pandering to them.
A patriotic British Muslim!
:)
Might be more than you pal. Colour/religion/etc doesn't dictate patriotism.
I hate to say it, but I can't disagree with him.
The HMO rules are there for a reason, and should be heavily enforced, particularly where landlords are dumping tenements to get an easy, lucrative contract on public money.
Surely the rules should be enforced, full stop.
It doesn’t need race-baiting to make it so.
And if SERCO contracts are the best way to make a safe return on your investment then that shows there’s something wrong with the system as a whole, as these contracts aren’t exactly known for their generosity are they…
Of course they should, and we should have police on every street and no NHS waitinglists, but that's not possible. As such, I'd move the highest scrutiny onto the people receiving public money.
So your choice is policing a specific set of HMO’s?
Glad to see you have your priorities in order.
No, re-read that. My choice is to police all HMOs. Where thst can't be achieved, those receiving public money should be policed first.
Aye, and your original comment agrees with the race-baiting tweet rather than calling it out for what it is
“Rules are rules”, and that’s why we’re specifically only going to apply them to landlords we have a political problem with, rather than the sector as a whole
Edit to add: in fact what he’s effectively saying here is that asylum seekers should be in better quality housing than citizens. Two-tier Tice Zia?
Reform voters are more likely to be landlords than the people living in HMOs. They don't give a shit about the population that doesn't vote for them
Any landlord that accepts a serco contact is a traitor to the nation. I look forward to telling Serco where to shove it.
Is it Reform policy to only ensure safe housing for non-Brits?
Good point.
How long until the press uncover a bunch of newly elected Reform councillors with multiple HMOs being used to house asylum seekers?
That would be require them to have compliant HMOs. They’ll be the illegal ones
This is gonna be a shooting in the foot exercise I suspect.
Why stop at SERCO landlords? Why not enforce the rules for all landlords?
Dude has the most Elon Musk way of speaking I’ve ever seen. Clown.
Irrespective of where this is coming from, it can only be a good thing. I know a few people who have had to live in sheltered housing and it’s absolute hell, and it seems no one cares about the regulations.
Unless they’re illegal migrants, reform apparently doesn’t care though
I'm unsure how these Serco et al contracts work. Do landlords rent to Serco on the understanding they will sublet? Is that how it works?
Actually tempted to put mine to Serco just to fuck him off.
Haha, Email him ask for more information on how to get a SERCO contract.
He’s obviously just virtue signalling and won’t bother to do the work but these places they put people are generally pretty horrible. Ironically, if Reform actually followed through, quality of life for asylum seekers would improve a lot.
This is good stuff! He makes a very good point about weaponising section 21 now and getting rid of it so the migrants can’t be evicted. Glad this country is waking up.
I mean, a things from my perspective.
If councils could afford to audit every HMO on a schedule, they would I dont think theyre intentionally not doing it.
No landlord with money in a property for investment will want asylum seekers, its less money for them than finding private tenants and this is shown with councils subcontracting to building firms for work on council properties, sure the work is guaranteed but the pay is way lower (ex-plasterer who did council jobs)
What if anything, will be done about British people who are also abusing the social housing system by applying for council properties when they could afford to privately rent?
Clearly trying to point score. Idiot.
Good! I hope he does..liberal Reddit struggles to accept that others have very valid opinions on how such subjects effect their day to day lives and it's not okay - recent elections have shown us that you are massively out of touch like it or not.
This voice needs to be heard and taken seriously. Fail to do so and you will suffer...
>liberal Reddit struggles to accept […] you are massively out of touch
If I had a dime for every time someone said this, only for they themselves to hold extreme views wildly out of step with the public, I’d have a lot of dimes.
I hope you get lots of dimes too (whatever they are). I always enjoy others struggle with the concept of public discourse 🥰
Why do you think there are migrant hotels, and what is your solution to them?
There are migrant hotels because it's attractive for economic migrants to come here. I understand that it is internally advertised that it's so great here. Free money, free accommodation, free healthcare etc etc. The list goes on.
To claim (I don't suggest you are) that they are here for safety is completely and utterly ridiculous. They're here because they know fine well what they'll receive. I also strongly believe that the government is complicit in all of this. I can't prove it but I think to myself as an average nobody, if I were to be tasked with protecting the integrity of a country and the people and the lifestyle that they enjoy and appreciate, I would fucking not let this entire shit show unfold.
People on the opposite side can argue all they want, it won't make a difference because those that argue that they're not happy and they're worried are those that are living through and feeling the impact of uncontrolled immigration from complete strangers with whom we have no security checks over. If this is okay, why even bother with passport checks and the like? Just come via dinghy and you'll be sound!
I don't want empty heads questioning me on this either because I work in this sector and see what's happening. If my inner circle knew what was being fed to those that have not contributed and do not share any of our cultural values, there would be hell on. I could go on and on.
What is happening is not okay, liberal or not and the silent majority have had enough. This is why the masses are forced to side with forces like Reform because the thought of Labour or Cons makes them vomit. All complete fakers and have no vested interest in us as people and communities. You suckers that think they do need checking.
There are migrant hotels because we have a legal obligation to process all asylum claims and the Tory government massively cut funding for claims processing such that the backlog exploded by 10x out of line with the number of claims in the same time. The fact that you are unaware of this key detail and instead buy into the “scrounging immigrants getting a free ride” nonsense and just insult anyone with a different opinion to you just shows how shallow and deeply unserious your understanding of the issue is.
I hope he does too—an dodgy HMO is an dodgyHMO regardless of the tenants. Half of the issues people face with landlords stem from a lack of enforcement of existing legislation. Politicians deceive them into thinking that new rules will solve problems, but simply ensuring that the existing rules are followed would resolve most issues.
Given the majority of people didn't vote for Reform UK, in what way are they massively out of touch?