Updating post from Reddit.
Hello, Firstly I am going to complete this, but I'm curious as to peoples opinion on this. We've been renting in the same property for over 15 years and our landlord for the whole time has just asked for this.
Our landlord has emailed stating they now legally need to do this, but from what I've read this has been around quite a long time. Secondly, their wording stated we do it immeditately for can face our tenancy being terminated.
As a good long-term tenant, I am a little peturbed by the last statement, can our tenancy really be terminated for something that our landlord should have already done?
If you were there before the legislation was brought in (2016 in England) then existing tenants were excluded. There was no requirement on your LL at that time and legislation only applied to new tenants moving forward.
He could be handing over management to an agent/changing agents and theyve demanded it. Are you indeed a brit citizen?
Thank you, good to know. Yes tenants before 2016 so would explain why this hasn't happened until now, and yes a British citizen.
Then in short, not he cant terminate the tenancy if you dont comply. Theres no requirement on you to meet this legislation. However…… proof of identity is required for any tenancy and due to the length of time he may not still have your original proof of ID, or you may have married, name change etc so this seems to be more a houskeeping request that will indeed benefit both of you. If he ever needed to make an insurance claim and the details on the occupiers were wrong there could be an issue in the event of a claim.
Yes, right to rent check has been around for a good 5 years at least.
Yes, if you don't have the right to rent, then the landlord will have to terminate your tenancy.
No issues with the right to rent. I think I'm just taking issue with the threatening tone from our landlord for clearly an oversight on their part.
I don’t think they are threatening they are simply saying what happens if you’re unable to provide these documents 🤷♂️
While it might seem blunt the landlord has given you all the information you need and the consequences if you don't.
I need X or I must Y.
Incorrect. T is a British citizen and a tenant with a tenancy pre-dating legislation so it doesn’t apply.
Yes because they need to comply. So whilst they weren't before they are setting it right
Yes, totally understand that and agree it should be put right. But equally I believe there is a difference between saying something needs completing with urgency and being bit of a pr*ck and threatening tenancy termination.
Like I say though, I'll complete it but curious as to opinions on this.
You'll be surprised how often tenants ignore instructions.
I think clear communication is key. I think the landlord here is being clear on what they want and the consequences of not following on those instructions. Both parties have clear expectations.
Appreciate that it might come across as rude but landlord could be taken to court and receive fines by the government. So they need to be equally firm in getting compliant as quickly as possible.
If you're a UK citizen then you only need to do this once and then never again.
Oh please, it's not just tenants that ignore instructions. I am tenant (of 11 years) with the largest housing association (HA) in England, who are regularly taken to the housing ombudsman (HO), which often sides with the complaining tenant only to have the HA brush over the issue and ignore the HO.
I don't think I ever said that it's only tenants that ignore the instructions
As a landlord, I had to do this too (both sides) again. Got a new one moving in inside a month too.
Email over a copy of your passport/driving license, a recent utility bill and a recent council tax bill. Job done.
It’s just the passport that’ll be required
If you have nothing to hide then it is the law so I’m not sure why you are questioning it.
Interestingly maybe the landlord wants to sell and needs all paperwork in order to make a s21 valid. So you effectively will be doing all this required admin just to face an eviction.
That's a bit of a leap isn't it? Far more likely explanation is that the landlord has just realised they need this now and didn't when the tenants moved in.
Not entirely a leap, the landlord has let it out 15 years, didn't bother getting it done in the few years that it has been a thing now with rent reform on the horizon and a potential hefty bill with net zero requirements maybe they have decided to call it a day. Just wouldn't out that they are trying to get everything in order for a potential eviction to sell up.
I wonder what else the LL might have missed?
This tenant has been there since before the right to rent legislation. No checks were required on existing tenants and the legislation only applied to new tenants moving forward.
I am referring to eicr, EPC, deposit scheme etc
Its the assumption the LL got this wrong so what else did they get wrong. They didnt, as there was no requirement on existing tenants.
Are you high?
Say what? You said “ what else has he missed”. He hadnt missed anything. This tenant was in situ pre right to rent act and legislation only applied to new tenancies going forward from the date of the act. Are you struggling with basic understanding?
We can't possibly know what else the LL might have missed. Is the gas cert up to date, have they done an EICR. These could have been missed.
The answer is both yes and no. Your landlord can’t terminate the tenancy.
He can however serve you notice and apply to court to have the tenancy terminated.
However if the landlord has never completed a basic right to rent check I wonder what else they haven’t done.
Does make you wonder. In all fairness though the landlord has been more proactive in the last 18 months, regular property checks etc, so I'm guessing this was an oversight they are now putting right.