Updating post from Reddit.
Lived in our rental property a long time, a carpet has literally disintegrated into dust.
Who is responsible for replacing?
Personal experience - We were in private rented, carpets were absolutely wrecked. Landlord changed them at their expense.
I'm not paying to put carpets in someone else's house 🤷♂️ it's their investment not mine.
You see, this is my feeling- they must be at least 20 years old, but letting agents scoffed and said 'i hope you're replacing it'
Erm... Excuse me? How is it my issue that the cheapest, thinnest carpets have disintegrated to dust through age?
No, you're not replacing 20 year old carpet that you didn't damage when carpets on average need replacing every 5-15 years, depending on quality of carpet. No deposit protection scheme would even entertain the idea so the EA can fuck right off, the twat.
Correct. Not on you to replace.
Check your tenancy agreement and see if there are any special mentions. If not I'd tell them to do one.
Depends on the tenancy. Social housing in my experience does not include floor coverings. Private tenancies might.
Private will
Replaced due to normal wear? The landlord would typically replace but it depends on the tenancy. In private tenancies, a private landlord would typically replace; however, not all do. It's standard in social or council tenancies that the tenant is responsible for floor coverings.
Replaced due to damage? The tenant.
We aren't council. We are through a letting agency. The carpets are so thin and cheap and must be at least 25 years old. One has literally disintegrated to dust, letting agents has scoffed and said 'i hope you're replacing that'. Like it's our problem, I don't feel that it's our problem at all- we take care of our house.
If they're that old they're not worth anything even if you were responsible for the damage. Landlord's can't better their property by taking money out of your deposit and replacements have to be like for like.
Even if tenants damaged the carpet they would not be responsible for a replacement, they would only be responsible for the value of the used carpet at the point it was damaged.
Landlord assuming you didn’t do something to destroy it
But if it’s just an old carpet that’s worn that’s landlord to cover
Thank you for this it's very validating.
He is so reluctant to do ANYTHING.
we've lived here nearly 20 years, we look after the place so well, we decorate to keep it fresh, we even retiled the bathroom when the old ones started falling off the walls due to the adhesive being that old it didn't hold them anymore. But the carpets?? Nah, surely that's on him this time.
That carpet is past its life.
Landlord to replace. At 20 years it’s worth nothing. Start putting pressure on agent.
If they do the “you replace” line again say ok u will but need confirmation of budget and you will deduct from rent.
Don’t deduct without agreement but keep the pressure on them.
Anything that is fixed furnishings relating to the property is under the responsibility of the landlord. Carpet is fixed.
As a general rule, anything that was there before your tenancy is the responsibility of the landlord. If it was included, then it was a consideration for you when you were deciding if the marketer rent provided the value to you. There’s a difference between like-for-like rentals at the same price when one has disintegrating carpets and the other has brand new lush and thick carpets and underlay - you’d choose the lush flooring.
Tell your landlord to replace. It IS their responsibility.
Landlord unless your tenancy agreement is truly horrific. If they make you do it just see if you can get a second hand carpet 😈
It will be detailed in your tenancy agreement.
Landlord, but there's nothing you can do to force him to change them. Might be worth having your own fitted over the top of them, then rolling them up and taking them with you when you go.
Anyone here knows how much it cost to replace carpets for two bedrooms in a flat? Much appreciate
Landlord
Bought this house 25 years ago, carpets marked but intact. Hoover up the dust to allow LL to replace or not
"intact"
What carpet are you putting in a rental that last 25 years? Or what carpet are you putting up with for 25 years if you're renting?
All sounds a bit gross and not right.
not turned to dust
still warm as it is concrete underneath
bought does not mean rental
dropped a few black garlic cloves and at least 3 bottles of red wine over the time, soaked up with kitchen tissue, but it is red and so more red is not as bad as a white carpet
not sure why the down votes from the dribbles
20 years in a normal tenancy is a long type of tenancy do you have?
We have a secure tenancy which allows us to live here for life, our rent increase this April was 0.3%. There was floor coverings when we moved in and we were asked if we wanted them, which we did so they were "gifted" to us. Therefore ours and not the responsibility of the landlord.
Private landlords can do Secure Tenancies but it would be rare, unless you have inherited the tenancy, if its an Assured Shorthold Tenancy it's definitely down to the landlord
I genuinely have no idea what kind of tenancy it is. All I know is when we moved in it was assumed we'd just stay however long we wanted.
Until you know what tenancy you have there is nothing you can do.
Personally, I would ask the managing agent for a copy.
What your rent like to comparable properties in the area?
You say that you think that you could live there however long you want that is unusual in a AST (the standard contact a priv6landlord uses) as they normally have a 6 or 12 month contact after which at anytime you can give 1 months notice or the landlord can give 2 months notice
How long do you intend to stay there? If <long time> then replace the carpet? Or keep living with it in that state, up to you. It's not up to the landlord to ensure the place looks plush.
But surely after 16 years it's the landlords responsibility to replace a carpet that has deteriorated?
And we have no plans to move.
I wouldn't exactly say the standard is 'plush' the carpet in question was the extra thin classroom style corduroy carpet. There wasn't even any underlay or carpet grips. It has just been rolled onto bare floor boards and wedged under the skirting boards with the looks of it. We've already replaced 3 rooms worth of flooring over time but this one irked me because it literally crumbled to dust when we replaced our bed.
I'd speak to the landlord directly rather than the agent.
A good landlord would value long term tenants and get this done for you. Unless you're like paying significantly below market rent at the moment then it's a bit of a conversation to reach something that works for both parties.
I have no contact details for the landlord directly, never have done.
And yeah... Our rent is a lot lower than current markets which is why we never usually speak up.
In that case I'd just sort it out myself if you're planning on continuing to stay there without much increase.
Sounds like there is a bit of a give and take.
Replace a 16 year old carpet when she doesn't even know the landlords name?
That's not give and take.
That's taking the piss.
You have the right to know who your landlord is.
Request that and don't let the estate agents fob you off.
So you've used the carpet for 16 years and would rather live with a completely worn out carpet than just replace it yourself?
You want the landlord to replace it, so you can stay there another 16 years at below market rent and wear the next one out too?
If you don't care to replace it, why should the landlord? It's obviously not important.