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Posted by phpadam 1 year ago
MUFBs are the new HMOs?
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Posted by phpadam 1 year ago

MUFBs like HMOs but with less headache with shared areas, less headache with shared utilities.

Source: PropertyWire

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Posted by Anon 1 second ago
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Posted by Ok_Manager_1763 1 year ago

So basically a return to the bedsit model.

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Posted by phpadam 1 year ago

Id think bedsits are more like HMOs than MUFB.

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Posted by Ok_Manager_1763 1 year ago

A MUFB is a single freehold property which has been split up into multiple self-contained units. Each unit will have separate entrance, kitchen, and bathroom area - normally no common areas except access hallways and maybe a shared outside space. Nothing like a HMO, but just like the old style bedsits where large Victorian houses were split up.

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Posted by phpadam 1 year ago

A bedsits in my mind shares bathrooms, much unlike MUFB.

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Posted by DistancePractical239 1 year ago

Block or appartments/flats? What's less headache about having more kitchens and bathrooms to manage, more energy meters to supply more boilers. Needs to be done properly this sort of thing.  

I'll stick to hmo houses in a row. 10 bed hmos will be the norm. 

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Posted by Pleasant-Plane-6340 1 year ago

10 bed HMO sounds horrible to me - how many bathrooms and kitchens would that have?

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Posted by JorgiEagle 1 year ago

Would depend on the restrictions set by the local authority, for 10 people, probably 3, it’s often a 4:1 ratio

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Posted by FuFuFlourFortheHead 1 year ago

MUFB's and HMO's are more profitable on paper,,,but are 10x the hassle and have worse tenants than any other type or property in reality. Depends on your business model...personally i prefer to take a bit less money in rent for a hassle free life.

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Posted by Ok_Manager_1763 1 year ago

They don't need a HMO licence for starters, so that already one less massive headache.

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Posted by DistancePractical239 1 year ago

Hmo is not a headache. Its all I do. Over 10 years now, 25 bedrooms and growing.  Cheapest smallest room £700. Biggest £1200per month zone 5 London. 

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Posted by Ok_Manager_1763 1 year ago

25 rooms is a Travelodge not a HMO 

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Posted by DistancePractical239 1 year ago

I count bedrooms. It's 25 across 3 houses. Will be 30 once I've completed number 4.

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Posted by 51wa2pJdic 1 year ago

The flats can still need an HMO licence if they are licensable HMOs (individual flats (but not collectively as a block, if the block is purpose-built)).

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Posted by Ok_Manager_1763 1 year ago

Only if you're renting out rooms separately within a multi room unit. MUFBs are usually 1 person/ household with 1 AST for a self contained unit within a split house/converted office block/purpose built building which dont need HMO licence - just possible planning and fire regs.

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Posted by 51wa2pJdic 1 year ago

If only 1 person in a self contained flat then yes, flat is certainly not HMO licensable.

Purpose built block of flats is OK too.

But a crappy conversion the block itself as a whole (if most of it is rented out) can be an s257 HMO and can require a licence if the council has an Additional HMO scheme that makes such s257 HMO licensable.

Eg and better definition of 'crappy' : https://www.salford.gov.uk/housing/information-for-landlords/s257-hmo-definition/

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Posted by Ok_Manager_1763 1 year ago

That only applies if don't meet building 1991 building regs

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Posted by 51wa2pJdic 1 year ago

Literally what I said/linked, yes

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